• breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    well no shit. the problem is russias’s “peace plan” is “Ukraine no longer exists”

    • finderscult@lemmy.ml
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      7 hours ago

      No, Russias peace plan is the separatist nations get to exist, and Ukraine doesn’t get NATO bases so they can’t build up a second attack any time soon.

      Russia has been quite reasonable throughout.

    • LukácsFan1917@lemmy.ml
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      6 hours ago

      The Russian oligarchs actually really wanted to chill and trade titanium through Ukraine. None of this NATO think tank narrative makes sense.

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      10 hours ago

      russias’s “peace plan” is “Ukraine no longer exists”

      No it isn’t. Eastern Ukraine and neutrality is still very far from the end of Ukraine and is still very reasonable deal to make for peace.

      Zelensky’s peace plan is still Russia to retreat from everywhere, including crimea, and then Ukraine can have “peace talks” about Russian reparations to Ukraine. This is not just unreasonable, it’s delusional. This kind of unbending attitude from the side that everybody knows is losing is no fucking bravery. It’s stupidity that prolongs a lost war for only Ukraine’s and Ukrainian people’s loss. All because Kiev and Zelensky are politically and narrative wise boxed themselves in for a war to the bitter end.