Poland’s president wants the US to base some of their nuclear weapons on Polish soil, to deter Russia.

Do you think this would be a good move?

  • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de
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    24 hours ago

    the entire PiS security strategy is to be the most loyal lapdog of americans. this is why it’s physically impossible to stop PiS top reps from gorging republucan balls, current MFA even got covertly recorded saying just that 10 years ago

    no, fuck that, french/british nukes and domestic conventional weapons will have to do

    • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space
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      23 hours ago

      If the US said outright that it sees Russia as its partner for regional stability, and Poland as falling within the Russian sphere, would PiS snap out of it, or come up with some rationalisation for why this isn’t the 19th-century Russian empire but is preferable to EU gay pride parades everywhere or something?

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        they are so fucking bad at diplomacy they might genuinely not see it coming. they would be mightly surprised tho

        you know how libertarians are all about going against The Man but not because they think that capitalism is fundamentally fucked up, but because they think they should be on top? PiS is a bit like that in relation to russia. they fucking hate russians but they want to, and did when they had opportunity, all the kinds of henious abuses of power like russian government does: complete control of media and constant flood of party propaganda, surveillance and intimidation of opposition, election interference, packing courts and all institutions (including government-owned companies) they can lay their hands on with party loyalists, and also they don’t really like EU since EU objected to all the previous shit, but also because they’re too nationalist for EU (but they like money). in fact the kind of bullshit that republicans pull right now is PiS wet dream, and we’re still dealing with fallout of their previous attempts. they even sent one of their people to trump’s inauguration (Dominik Tarczyński)

        i think that current MFA, Radosław Sikorski, put it well (in 2014):

        In another part of the leaked conversation, Sikorski was reported to have said: “The Polish-American alliance is worthless. It is even harmful because it creates a false sense of security for Poland.”[68] In the fragment of the record Sikorski said: “We’re going to antagonize Germany and Russia, and they will think that everything is ok because we have given a blowjob to the Americans. Losers. Total losers.” Sikorski stated later that in the actual conversation, he was predicting what Polish foreign policy would look like under a Law and Justice government.[69]

        there’s also a part where it’s likely that minister of defense in their govt was a russian plant, or at least had a handler:

        In October 2024, a special commission investigating Russian and Belarusian influences in Poland accused Macierewicz of undertaking decisions as defence minister that weakened Poland’s defence capability, including canceling plans to purchase tanker aircraft for the country’s F-16 fighter jet fleet without analysis or consultation, which the commission attributed to Macierewicz’s “personal aversion to partners in the EU”. It also accused him of weakening Poland’s intelligence capabilities by closing down 10 out of the Polish intelligence service’s 15 regional bureaus in 2017

        not only they don’t like EU, they also don’t like EU states as a matter of principle and together with gorging republican balls this gives outcomes like disturbingly high % of weapons procurement from americans, even at expense of domestic manufacturers. there was a development of guided MLRS going on for 15+ years, but they gutted it and ordered HIMARS instead, for example

        • albert180@discuss.tchncs.de
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          20 hours ago

          they also don’t like EU states as a matter of principle

          I think at least every German understood that back then. Also on r/Europe there were many polish posters (or russian trolls posing as them) who defended every braindead PiS-Take to the Death (like claiming Germany did poison the Oder river, when one of their nepotism plant owner friend did)