This is absolutely on brand. Can’t trust these companies to do what’s right.
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Leave it to Christians to feel victimized and “disrespected” when other people celebrate their own lifestyles. Religious fruitcakes and snowflakes.
Also, hello! I’m another Reddit user trying to create the internet I wanted back in the 90’s. No time like the present!
Welcome to the 90’s!
Dude, it’ll be totally radical this time around! No psych!
Each year, Google sponsors a series of Pride events in San Francisco and other locations for employees and the public. This year, the closing event was a “Pride and Drag Show” featuring popular performer “Peaches Christ,” who was scheduled to perform Tuesday at LGBTQ+ bar Beaux in San Francisco to “wrap up this amazing month,” according to a now-removed internal description of the event viewed by CNBC.
So, during Pride, Google sponsors events held at various locations. And people are upset because someone with a weiner is wearing a dress and a fabulous wig while singing showtunes?
It’s at a gay bar, but it’s also an official employee event, which is weird. I wonder what the expectations are for employees to attend official events. For me, whether it’s a drag show or bowling, I don’t attend most after-hours work events.
Google is still sponsoring the event, it’s just not an employee event anymore. That’s probably how it should have been planned from the beginning.
That said, thin-skinned Christians can not attend if it’s an optional event. The bible is silent about drag shows.
Haven’t the poor christians suffered enough??? 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Can someone fill me in on wtf is going on with drag in the US?
I’m from the UK, drag is like our longest running joke, and families go to pantomimes all the time. Recently theres been a more direct association with the LGBT community in the popular understanding of it. I’d say that most people’s view on drag here is:
- not necessarily an LGBT thing, though it very often is
- kinda traditional
- can be funny, or just a fun performance
- pretty lighthearted
- not expected to be overtly sexual by default, depends on context
Some of the stuff I see out of the US is bizzare. I realise that the weirder stuff is always going to be amplified in the news, and people are not necessarily trying to show the full context in photos. But I’ve seen shit like
- rightoids getting so worked up that the pickets outside resemble the Gaza Strip or, as I’m reliabily told, the average us abortion clinic
- performances in weird places like libraries
- people watching a clearly sexual show in dive bars with their kids in tow that look like they’re starting at a painting in a gallery pondering the meaning of nothingness and looking way out of place
Like, wtf? Drag isn’t the problem, it’s the weird-ass way that people seem to be responding to it. Go to a show if you think you might enjoy it, read up on the performance or use context ques to understand what kind of drag performance it’s going to be. Certainly don’t go for political reasons and ruin the fun for performers who are just trying to have a good time. But equally, don’t plan shows that are meant to provoke a reaction for political reasons, for the same reason.
And why the right wingers care so much if fucking beyond me. Imagine having enough free time to consider that important enough to spend your precious free time protesting it rather than doing literally anything else.
Just chill, it’s a fucking stage show. It’s like the whole toilet thing again, just hysterics over something inconcequential. I’m trans and fabulous as fuck and don’t seem to consider these issues nearly as important than a middle-aged cishet blue collar dude from Texas who may never have met a single trans person or encountered anything like this outside of the Internet.
Is only fun show, why you heff to be mad?
Republicans in the U.S. have decided that drag shows are corrupting the children. But they can’t stop with just “they’re corrupting the children” now. They’re going after drag as a whole. Because it’s never just been about drag, it’s been about oppressing LGBT+ people. And when they’ve gotten their way and made them fully second-class citizens, if citizens at all, they’ll go after the next group. Maybe it will be Jews. Maybe it will be black people. Maybe it will be something else. But there always has to be a corrupting “them” for Republicans to fight against.
I have a conspiracy theory on potential Google employees meddling with the algorithm on YouTube to push the far-right into mainstream yet again. It seems like there’s some basis for it.
How is this a thing at work?
Why not just not waste money on bullshit and pay people better/work them less hours?
It’s not at work - it’s at a gay bar
Wow, I didn’t know Google was planning to start a war (start a nuclear war)
Well it is their motto right? ‘Do No Good’.
Can’t trust these companies
That’s all that needs to be said
I really, really hate that 98% of our voting population formulates their worldview solely based on the nightly news broadcast that they watch. We’d be in such better shape of we could get either flavor of partisan to care half as much about their own economic power as they do about social issues, and more economic power would translate to more social power.
where do you live that 98% of people watch the nightly news
I wouldn’t have said nightly news, but 98% of people are affected by mass media. Anyone that watches any form of news on the TV or reads the paper. Anyone with a smartphone that searches Google or reads any social media. And of those that don’t, they have people in their life that do and tell them about it.
As much as we would all like to think we’re above it and not affected by propaganda (whether corporate or state) it’s just not true. The only people not affected by media are true hermits, Ted Kaczynski followers, and the Amish.
Can’t trust these companies to do what’s right.
This has to be drilled into the collective consciousness as much as possible. There is no such thing as an ethical corporation, or an ethical company that is for-profit – they simply cannot be ethical, they are amoral by design. If Target or Walmart or Netflix do something that is seen as positive, the only reason is a profit motive, not because they are moving towards being ‘good’.
<3 Seeeee??? This is what I’m hear for. Haha. Thanks for such a lively debate! Carry on…
Ouch! I was just pleasantly surprised to see so many comments! This is my second post to the Lemmy-verse and after a day at work, I come home to this being a popular post. 😊
But I am also the one leaving the party at 9:45pm to go to bed. 😂 You all aren’t wrong there!
I don’t typically have much time during the week to spend time online, but I’m so happy to see this community building so quickly!
Also, screw you Google for listening to the nutty people in your organization and removing the support for a simple drag event.
There is a feeling of massive change on the horizon. This community might easily become my new home in the online world. Thanks to all of you!
You’re the poor sod who sighs and says “This is a really great conversation,” at like 9:45p, aren’t you.
“Welllll, it’s getting late, and I have to to get up early, soo, byee. Really great hanging out.”
Oh man this is totally me!
I bet you also save I love you within the first 6 months and then try to justify it as normal.
You’re right!
Well tough truths, no one cares that the greeks had like 5 translations of love and you meant it in the eros sense, and that means it wasn’t weird to say when I was inside you. … - … I think I have some issues to resolve. Excuse me.
Also I’m excited that you’re my first interaction on Lemmy… perhaps this is a sort of phileo between us.
Haha. Well, it was really nice catching up. Talk to you later!
I have no problem with drag. Where I start to have a BIG problem is when kids are dragged (lol) into it. In the us drag shows, at least I feel, are more adult oriented, and when you start showing kids something that they are clearly uncomfortable with and shouldn’t even have been shown to begin with. That’s where I draw the line. Keep it to adult only places, not schools and libraries where kids can be exposed to it.
A drag show is not inherently “adult oriented”, whatever that means. It’s good to teach children to be accepting. If we are going to ban something for the sake of the children, let’s ban child beauty pageants.
I’m not saying ban em, I’m saying keep drag out of spaces where children frequent.
Nobody is forcing drag on children. This “drag invasion of children’s spaces” isn’t a thing.
It’s a Boogeyman the conservative media have latched onto to make people angry. It’s propaganda to demonize a group of people for political gain.
You would benefit from reading the post by @gundog48 above. In the UK, drag is often something for families. It doesn’t have to be and often is not sexual.
Drag shows are basically comedy shows. The only real difference is that the presenter typically wears tons of makeup and a gigantic wig. There’s nothing scary or family unfriendly about them.
Just like any show, any drag show has a target audience of course. One drag show might target an adult audience, another is suitable for people of all ages. Just like there are comedy shows and puppet theaters specifically for children.
Pantomimes with people in drag has existed well before any of this fake social outrage has occurred. When I was a kid I watched Pantomimes. I left thinking “wow that was funny” it wasn’t anything sexual at all.
It’s literally just comedy, that is all it is.
Same with Dame Edna on nightly game shows. I never saw it as anything sexual, a kid literally won’t unless you’re out here describing in graphic detail what a male and a female sex organ looks like, a kid isn’t going to know or even care. Most kids just see someone who is different and goes about their own business playing and having fun, do they sometimes ask questions? Sure, do you need to answer and explain in graphic detail? No, that’s on you if you do, not drag performers.
How do you feel about scary movies or violent video games? Same thing?
That they shouldn’t be shown to young kids? Yes. I’m a huge horror movie buff and play a ton of violent video games(see people playground/tf2) and I’d neverlet my kid consume that content till he is old enough(17) then he can view that stuff, and if that includes drag, then so be it!
17? You know your kid has probably been looking at porn on the internet since they were 9 years old, right?
Also, I grew up in the 80s when our parents took us to see horror movies that also had, *gasp* breasts in them in the movie theater. When we were 9. Somehow we didn’t all turn out depraved lunatics.
what does a drag show have to do with google?
Well it’s a regular comedy show, sometimes companies host such events for their employees. Just like christmas parties or summer events.
