Not the worst advice, tbh.

Also, I’m planning on eating some tacos soon, so you’re 2 for 2.

☺️ thank you for that great response

The artist makes boring unfunny comics, then when people question why her comics are popular she makes misandrist drama comics about how all these evil men are out to get her, which makes the hate even worse.

Hell if I know: I’d never even heard of it.

are other justifications needed? seeing the same shit in the same in the same style all the time gets boring regardless of any other factor.

They’re boring and lame, and they have a cultish following of people who defend them not because they are actually good, but because the artist receives abuse.

This comic is a prime example of it. Completely unfunny, unoriginal, strawman argument that achieves nothing more than making people argue with each other.

My issue with pizzacake is her wildly sycophantic fans and their disingenuous bad behavior.

So as much as I may not be a fan of pizzacake, yeah I agree she obviously isn’t as awful or problematic as a literal Nazi and thus doesn’t deserve to be maligned the same way as pebbleshit does.

I don’t want to see this place turn into another worship space for pizzacake, but I also don’t believe that she personally deserves any ire or overt negativity as a person

I will take Heathcliff over pizza cake 10 out of 7 days of the weeks

what the fuck is pizzacake

Something something feet pics

I don’t like them neither but have never found them so bad they deserve a downvote.

Yep. Depends on the interface you’re using.

Same, but in reverse.

Well that last part is good. If you’d stay out of the woods it’d be appreciated as well.

What? Why shouldn’t his daughter and son be taught that sometimes, men act inappropriately and that women feel threatened and all the rest?

Most people I know lack empathy for things like this. Even people I’ve grown up with my whole life.

So that raises the question, is it something you’re inherently born with? As I don’t think I chose to be this way, but here we are. I find it interesting to think about.

It’s been a while so idk if you remember, but as soon as I realized what you meant I immediately owned up to my mistake. This was from one of the last comments I made to you back then:

I’m not trying to be disingenuous, it genuinely sounded like you didn’t realize, that’s my bad.

I thought you meant something that you didn’t. The second I realized, I admitted that I was at fault. I fucked up there, and I’m sorry for that.

the two faces of an extremely punchable coin

Don’t forget “I’ve suffered it and it wasn’t that bad so don’t pretend it is”

That stuff sucks, and to add to your first point, I love hanging out with kids. They view the world in an interesting way that usually leads to funny out of context quotes about their parents.

But would I go up to even an acquaintances kid to talk? No. Since I’m a 199cm (🇲🇲6’6🇱🇷) hunk of man meat, I’d probably scare the kid and parent half to death.

The same goes for anyone, not just women. I don’t have the right to make anyone feel unsafe and if I am, then it’s my duty to walk away.

It’s not my fault, or yours. It’s just the way of things, and the only way we can fix it, is to respect everyone’s feelings. Unless they’re minimising your loss of someone, in which case fuck them.

It’s more like, “I own 17 homes and it wasn’t that hard to get that many. They must not be trying hard enough.”

So bored of reading the Nazi Bar story I may just go and open a bar called “The Nazi Bar” as an ingenious double bluff.

This is my experience moderating communities as well. The worst trolls get a kick out of testing how far they can stretch the rules and provoke mayhem without getting banned. Excessively explicit rules also trample over people who would usually cause no trouble, but get too tense under exceptional situations.

Users may hate “moderator discretion” as a rule, but by fuck do users hate not having it as well

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It’s the damn bear. If the damn bear hadn’t been posted a few days ago, everyone would have been like yeah that sounds about right

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I think their point was that unless 100% of men are contributing to a problem, the problem clearly doesn’t exist, no matter how many women experience it.

Are you OK, son? Nobody said all that.

They aren’t hostile in the same degree towards all groups. Sure, you may have people mock you on a voice chat after you get killed in a game, but the chances are nothing alike those of the harassment you will get for having a female voice.

Obviously not to him

That’s how it happened in her mind, perhaps.

I mean sure, I know men can be a little rough and abraisive at times, but this literally psychopath behavior (especially the last panel).

No man in their right mind would lay it on this thick without some serious provocation.

Have a happy Wednesday.

Kinda hard to have an equal discussion when being a woman entails being sexually harassed and occasionally assaulted by a bunch of men, mostly ones you barely know or don’t know at all, on a regular basis before you even hit puberty.

genuine question, how do you expect it to get any better if you aren’t being civil? Like yeah theoretically if someone punches you or something, it’d feel good, and probably be legal to bash them over the head with a tire iron, but let’s be honest, the only thing that’s gonna do is end up with one of you dead. Which might work on the scale of war.

But when we’re talking about something on the scale of, literally half of society (or all of it), i don’t see how you expect that to work. I also don’t expect it to work, don’t get me wrong, i love having in depth conversations about problems, it’s fun. There’s an unspoken rule that goes a little something like “play hard, fight hard”

Their problems are caused by patriarchy too, but that doesn’t mean I’m willing to subject myself to sexism from them. They, whether they realize it or not, feel like they deserve what they want from a woman, the unfairness of women not wanting them makes them frustrated and they see gender equality as a means to an end, they see it as a way to have women finally love them.

it’s definitely interesting i’ve talked to a number of people, being an aro/ace myself it’s really weird talking to horny people. I can safely say, being told by a friend of yours that “they would like to rape you” is definitely one of the experiences of all time. My response to that is and will always be “i will kill you” because seriously what the fuck.

I get the feeling that people are probably over pathologizing it, because it’s hard to define, understand, and conceptualize why another person would ever fucking say that. I dont think it’s explicitly due to negligence, i think it’s a little more nuanced. Though i still think the defining factor here would be aggression, as that’s usually what follows intent.

It’s not so much of “women and men are equally fucking up and need to make up” as it is “women are extremely scared by men, and negotiating with the likely emotionally unstable potentially violent people with nothing to lose who probably thought about you and them dating immediately after seeing you never seems like the good option”. It’s like encouraging kids to interact with people who they think are violent and might shoot up a school in order to convince them not to shoot up the school… Even talking to someone out of pity is endangering yourself.

i think you might be misunderstanding the point here, i think the intent is specifically that women don’t know how to effectively communicate this problem, generally because violence scary. And the fact that men generally aren’t aware of it, because they aren’t self conscious to that degree, or they simply don’t have that level of real world experience surrounding them. It’s hard to ask questions you don’t know how to ask after all. I think some men don’t think/realize that it’s a problem, and since nobody seems to be informing them otherwise. Continue thinking that. I think there are an extreme minority that think otherwise, or at least i like to that think that way. Because otherwise i would expect a shit ton more crime be going on than there seems to be right now. I think for them, they’re probably more actively involved in these spaces, than other people are (on account of the hateful rhetoric) and as a result outweigh the better people, significantly. By a few factors i think.

There’s also the question of whether some of these are just literal bots now? Because that might be a thing.

Most guys want to get in your pants or eventually get to that point, whether you’re apathetic to them or nice to them or mean to them. How am I supposed to talk to guys about sexism when usually their main concern is the lack of action with women and my main concern is interacting with men is inherently extremely risky and I fear I’m about to get raped or murdered when a man raises his voice at me?

i think this part calls back to the previous part i mentioned about the original comment here, i don’t think anybody understands what’s happening, and i don’t think anybody understands what to do about it either. Also i feel like this over sexualizes men? Than again i’m also aro/ace so like, good luck making me horny (maybe i just don’t fucking understand it lol). In certain contexts i could see this being very true. On dating apps for example. At a bar for another one. Generally, just out in society. I don’t think that’s really the case. Because if most men are thinking about sex constantly that’s called porn addiction. That’s bad.

my point ultimately, is that as a male, or at least a male presenting individual, it’s impossible for me to be capable of understanding the quintessential experience of “being a woman” likewise, as a female, it’s also impossible to understand the quintessential experience of “being a man” and when you’re trying to speak across the divide, like a language barrier, it’s really difficult to effectively make a point, that either side can understand, that communicates problems between the two. Direct communication is probably the best solution, given that it requires the least amount of effort to think about. The problem here is how do we most effectively communicate the problem directly. There are almost certainly ways of doing it. The question is how, and finding the answer to it is the hard part.

Men usually immediately think of it as a challenge

fascinating generalization here btw. I have nothing else to say on it, so i’m just gonna let that one simmer i guess.

But instead men think of it as how women feel about any single man, including them.

this is one of the documented dangers of generalized statements. I think what happens here is that people make a generalization, and generalization usually include a social sub group. Think of “linux neckbeards” for example, and what happens when you make them, and specifically make statements about them that are negative. What i think happens, is that people see that, understand that you’re talking about the entire collective, and then realize that they’re a part of it, and that they’re a single individual. And if you think that badly of the group, you must therefore, think equally as bad as any given individual, and most people like to seem themselves as average, or above average, so what happens is that it impacts them. It’s the same reason people don’t like PR speak, it’s the same reason everyone hates HR, it’s the reason everyone hates legislation and politicians. They never just say it, and as a result it’s always hiding behind this layer of literary function. And people don’t like being spoken to like they aren’t people.

A good solution to this problem, obviously, is to stop making them. That’s a good start. Another solution, and the one that i like to employ because it’s a lot more versatile, is to speak about something in a very analytical manner. I speak about things directly, but i also speak about them in a very disconnected tone, so that it’s obvious that my thoughts are independent from my person. It also tends to instill a similar rhetoric in the other individual, because you sort of have to respond to it in kind, given it’s wording.

When you come off adversarial, people are going to respond in an adversarial manner. When you come off disconnected and flippant manner, people will also recognize that, and respond in kind. There will always be an individual who doesn’t respond in kind, and we refer to them as outliers, in a societal manner. There are either, unconscionably good people, or they are criminals, who do not respect the law.

speaking about the previously mentioned solution again, i’ve tried to do that with this response, i don’t have forever to work on this, so i’m not proof reading it lmao. But you may have noticed i’m not talking about you, or women more generically. I’m not talking about what you said literally, i’m talking about what was said in a more broad and societal manner. The reason why is that it doesn’t read lightly. And frankly, being angry on the internet all day, not very healthy, so i try to be pretty cognizant of it from time to time. Since i’ve isolated it, and i’m speaking about it more clinically. It’s much easier to disconnect me from your statements, and you from your statements as well. The hope here is that i can at least give you something to think about, whether it perhaps makes your day better, or gives you some food for thought, idk. That’s not my prerogative ultimately, that decision is up to the reader of this wall of text. At the end of the day i just want people to think more with their brains, and say less with anger. It’s good for you mentally, it keeps your brain healthy, and it promotes a more functional society.

in a way, you can look at this post as me trying to practice what i preach. We all strive to be good people, but don’t always try to be good people.

edit: im back, sorry i forgot to mention something i wanted to talk about right now.

There’s currently a big problem with red pill manosphere type shit right? You ever wonder why? It turns out the answer is pretty clear if you just look a little bit into it. Bear with me, i’m using free market economic theory here, it’s going to get a little funky. This is a missing market segmentation, and what we’re seeing is, people capitalizing on it. Not because it’s good content, but because there is so little existing, productive content that shovelling out this dogshit content in place, apparently suffices for a considerable amount of the market buyers. It’s increasingly reported across young men that they “have no purpose” and “don’t know what to do” and “don’t feel important” etc… The landscape is shifting. (i found the word limit lol, never mind, was going to add more, i can’t)